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Sep 16, 2021

“You don't have to do things the way people have done them for 50 to 100 years."

“We’ve got legal rules that confine us, but we don't have to be confined with the way in which we deliver those legal services.”

And with that, Helen Kay set out to create a very different law firm from the ground up.

The Managing Director of Rise Legal shares her journey from the UK to Australia, starting in one of the biggest firms and eventually working for herself as a sole-trader, only to find that what she needed, and wanted, was somewhere in between.

“It started as a niggle and that niggle was, don't like the mahogany desks, I don't like hourly rate billing, I don't like this part of it.”

“I had a goal in mind and I needed to build a network of people who I knew, liked and trusted and who were going to know, like and trust me, ready for when I wanted to start my own law firm and I knew it was going to look different this time.”

“So I didn't say no to anything. That was a sort of taboo word .. even if I was exhausted, even if I had four other things on that week, I never said no.”


  •     Goalsetting and the business of law 
  •     From big law to the evolution of new law
  •     Entrepreneurship, networking and building a profile 
  •     Client service and KPI's - a new measure of success!   

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Host: Alex Correa - Career Coach in Law

Brought to you by Alex Correa Executive  

With thanks to our guest : Helen Kay

Friends in Law is edited and engineered by Cold Ghost (aka Fletcher Babb)  Produced by Bern Young